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Looking for information on Elizabeth Dicks who married Abraham keeping 24 Sep 1851 in Lower Burgeo and after Abraham's death in 1860 married Thomas Taylor 30 Sep 1863 in Lower Burgeo. I would like to know who her parents are and when she was born. If you have any additional information about Elizabeth's family that would also be greatly appreciated.

Also as I am somewhat geographically challenged when it comes to the Burgeo islands can someone explain what comprises Lower Burgeo in this time period?

Many thanks for all responses.

Anne

The problem is the Burgeo C of E birth records do not start until 1840 and the Burgeo C of E marriage register does not give Abraham or Elizabeth's age, nor does the Thomas Taylor
register. The book "Ramea's Family Tree" says Abraham was born 1828 but does not give Elizabeth's date.
Burgeo is right on the coast (was there on vacation), I assume that Upper Burgeo/Burgeo are the same and Lower Burgeo/Burgeo Islands are the same.

Thanks for the response cameha2.

There is a 15 year old Elizabeth Dicks among those confirmed at Lower Burgeo in 1845 which would make her a good candidate age-wise for marriage to Abraham in 1851. Born circa 1830 she would have been about two years younger than Abraham if he was born in 1828. That would also make her about 33 at the time of her marriage to Thomas Taylor, so still of child-bearing age.

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So I am trying to place her with one of the Dicks couples confirmed at that time. It's not Christopher and Elizabeth because their daughter Elizabeth was born in 1847 in Upper Burgeo. Christoperher's wife Elizabeth is only 24 in 1845 which makes her too young to be a 15 year-old's mother. Susan Dicks is 25 which would make her 10 when the 1830 Elizabeth was born. So that only leaves the 56 year old Susanna who would have been about 41 when Elizabeth-1830 was born. That's plausible. According to the birth records I have, Susannah was married to Henry. The earliest birth record I have for them is the 1835 birth of their son Edward.

So my next questions are: In 1845 was the 56 year old Susanna Dicks married to the 71 year old Henry? The other Henry Dicks is 34. Is the 34 year old Henry Dicks married to the 25 year old Susan Dicks? There is an 1845 birth record for Isaac Dicks born to Henry and Susan at Lower Burgeo. There is also an 1843 birth record for Henry Dicks born to Henry and Susannah at Lower Burgeo.

I belong to Ancestry.ca and there are 14 possible families for Elizabeth Dicks,
most of them have Henry or Henry Harold Dicks and Susannah Caines, most have her born 1815, a few have her born approx 1830, a couple have her married to a Joseph Dicks before Abraham.
Those who have a death date have 11 Feb 1881, half in Burgeo, half in Cuanza Sul, Angola
There is Elizabeth Taylor in the death register, 11 Feb 1899, Burgeo, born Burgeo, age 78, Methodist,
died of old age.
There is a Thomas Taylor in the death register, 9 April 1904, E Burgeo, born E Burgeo, age 66, Methodist, died of TB.

I also belong to ancestry.com and have grown to mistrust public trees with no source documentation. I've seen some obvious errors in some public trees. Anyone who copies the information to their own tree only makes the error seem credible because it occurs in multiple places.

I have a marriage record for Elizabeth Dicks and Abraham Keeping. It shows Elizabeth as a spinster.

I believe the 1815 Elizabeth Dicks was the wife of George Dicks.
http://ngb.chebucto.org/Cemetery/dicks- ... -blp.shtml
George and Elizabeth Dicks were also confirmed in 1845, but at Upper Burgeo.
http://ngb.chebucto.org/Parish/upper-burgeo-1845.shtml

Not sure who the Elizabeth Taylor who died in 1899 was. She could be the widow Elizabeth Gunnery who married Richard William Taylor in 1857. Although they were Church of England so maybe not. Her age means she was born circa 1821 which is older than Elizabeth-1830. Elizabeth is such a common name in that area and there were a bunch of Taylor men in the Burgeo area. It's very hard to find Methodist records online.

The Thomas Taylor who died in 1904 is the right vintage for my Thomas Taylor who married Elizabeth Dicks Keeping, but my Thomas is supposed to be from Grand Bruit. I've been trying to place him with the family of James and Ann Taylor of Grand Bruit. Two of their children were born at Red Island (1840 and 1844) before they went to Grand Bruit where their other children were born, so it's possible for Thomas born circa 1838 at E Burgeo to be theirs.

I have lots of dots in my research but far too few connections. Thanks for the fact check.

The Burgeo Methodist church records, according to the Public Archives of Newfoundland, don't start until 1880 and I have not seen them on the internet. It's like the Channel C of E records start in 1852 but they are not online either, PANL has them, I would really be interested in seeing them but I live in Alberta.

I have found some documentation on Burgeo Methodists in the Newfoundland section of familysearch.org. I was able to find birth and death documentation for my grandfather's brother who was born and died in 1905. Unfortunately it is the only birth record I've been able to find for his Taylor family. I was also able to find a record showing both the birth date and baptism date for my great-grandmother Bridget Young which allowed me to make a connection to someone else's extensive research on her family.

After 1891 all records had to be reported to the government, it was law, before 1891 it was voluntary, some did, some didn't and some did but were not put on FamilySearch.
The PANL archive list shows death records matching birth/baptism and marriage records but none of them went on FamilySearch for any church parish.

I guess I will either have to pay for a PANL research request or make the trip to St John's from the US to do it myself.

Thanks for the information cameha2.

PANL charges $20.00 for each search ie; a birth or a marriage or a death, there are private researchers listed on the PANL website, the two I contacted in regards to Channel C of E charged $20.00 an hour, one had a 3 hr minimum but she did find my ggrandmother's family and it was worth the $60.00.